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David Lesky

I never had a chance. I was born into a family who loved baseball and the Royals, so I accordingly love baseball and the Royals. I just so happen to love to write also, which makes writing about the Royals for this site something that makes me happy each and every day. When I first started blogging, a fairly well known baseball writer told me to only do it until I'm unhappy doing it, but I don't see that coming any time soon.

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  1. 7

    royalinvirginia

    Don’t want to see him go for a pitcher we control <4 years, unless of course it's Price. One of the few I'd be OK with is Matt Moore, but he's probably unattainable. He's not only a very good pitcher but also has club friendly contract. Please, please — not a high-priced stud that will be gone in 2 yrs.

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    unclejesse

    This may be an insanely stupid comment but I am going to make it anyway. If I was running a baseball team one thing I would try to keep in mind is that people still love to see their team score. While we can all say that a 1-0 pitchers dual is fun, the truth is the average fan wants to see 6-5 wins more than 1-0. Maybe I am wrong, but given that knowledge what brings in more money and more wins. Having a bunch of 3-4 type starters and having a lineup that scores you some serious runs. My option if its worth anything is to keep Myers, and sign a Brandon McCarthy or a Dan Haren. Heck sign them both to two year deals and or a one year with crazy incentives, if you end up paying them a lot of money its becasue you are wining and the K would be full at that point. Money in, Money out.

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    cpass

    I’m with Bannister: Why is it that everybody thinks Moore will make a bad trade? When he’s traded anyone with actual value, he has done all right. Are we horrified by what he got for Zack Greinke?

    ilroyalfan, please give examples of “DM has been played too often in trades.” Don’t use Melky Cabrera, because the entire industry felt that he did well with that trade. Are you really that horrifed that he sent Leo Nunez (or whatever his name is) to the Marlins for Mike Jacobs? No, Jacobs wasn’t great, but how is that “playing” him?

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    David Lesky

    I’m not sure how that isn’t consistent. It might be worth the hit. Hellickson, in my opinion, would not be worth that hit, no matter how many years he has left on his contract. David Price is a legitimate number one starter. He’s one of the best in baseball, so yeah, I’ll trade six years of Myers for three years of that.

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    mungakc

    David, how about a little consistency! You say ” If trading Wil Myers allows the Royals to pick up a starter who they control for four or more seasons, then it might be worth the hit the offense will take in that time period” and then discount Hellickson (whom they would control for 4 years), but bring up Price (whom they would control for 3 years). You intimate that the Rays wouldn’t trade Price for Myers (I agree), but that you wouldn’t trade Myers for Hellickson. To be fair, the first 2 years of Price and Hellickson’s ML results are not incomparable. Hellickson wins on ERA, ERA+ is a wash, WAR is comparable, and Price wins in IP and K’s. Though Jeremy shows improvement in missing bats in his 2 years, he won’t every touch Price in that category. Hellickson is the Rookie of the Year and then wins a gold glove in year two (not what you trade for, but worth mentioning).

    I don’t think that it is a reach to picture Hellickson as a #2 starter – would you consider a trade for a #2 starter and control for 4 years? Generally, I agree that you don’t trade comparable pitching for comparable offense; pitchers are much too risky and injury prone. But as you point out, an offensive “prospect” is still a prospect. until they succeed at the ML level.

    Keep up the good work, Mark

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    ilroyalfan

    One argument I have seen made often, is that you don’t trade value for value. Meaning, what you lose by trading Myers should be more than made up for with what you get in return. If the Royals lose the trade in the long run because Wil realizes his immense potential, then the Royals should not do it. Of course, no one has a crystal ball. At this point, I think the largest con is the last one you mentioned. DM has been played too often in trades to really trust him with this one. It would take a blockbuster deal, and it just does not seem like the Royals FO would end up on top of it given their history.

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    Bannister19

    I agree with just about everything you said.

    I wouldn’t be too upset with Hellickson but I would be with Lester, due to last season, and Shields due to his age. The 2 year contracts are just not worth it. The Brewers couldn’t do anything with two years with Greinke, Gallardo, Braun, and Fielder for one, I doubt we do it with James Shields.

    Final thought: To be fair to GMDM, his trades have not been bad at all. Dan Cortes? Mark Teahan? Burgos? His worst one was probably Mike Jacobs and trading relievers who end up lying about their name isn’t a terrible sin.

    At the same time, he’s never traded a top 10 Royals prospect, as far as I’m aware (Cortes might’ve been around there but he was tanking), so who knows.

    If it’s not David Price and it requires Myers, don’t do it.
    But hell, if that means the difference between having Chen and Luke in our rotation or not, Its intriguing.

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